'Bruce Willis? At first it was difficult. He's the guy who used to sleep with my wife': Ashton Kutcher on overcoming his jealousy

The Hollywood actor on hanging out with Bruce, having good genes, why meeting his wife was fate and spending time in jail



Ashton Kutcher is arguably the youngest and most powerful media mogul in the world. As successful a producer as he is an actor, the 32-year-old was recently included in Time magazine's annual list of the 100 most influential people on the planet.

Kutcher began his acting career as the dim-witted Michael Kelso in That '70s Show, and went on to create the hugely successful MTV show Punk'd, playing pranks on unsuspecting celebrities. That led to film roles, and in 2003 he became even more famous when he started dating Demi Moore, 15 years his senior. Two years later he married her, becoming stepfather to Moore's three daughters from her marriage to Bruce Willis.



Today Kutcher has five million followers on Twitter, while his company, Katalyst, has produced over a dozen TV shows and films. Meanwhile, in his sharp new film, Killers, he stars as a super-spy opposite Katherine Heigl. It's all a far cry from his upbringing on a farm in Iowa with his parents, older sister and twin brother Michael, whose heart transplant at the age of 13 had a profound eff ect on him.

'It was a reality check and made me value life - I realised it could all end in a second.'

There used to be five or six cars full of paparazzi following us - I stopped that with Twitter.

Except for rare occasions, they don't follow us any more. I definitely try to lead the long tail of the press, so if I'm going to an event I break the story myself - I don't need somebody making money from breaking a story about me. If I'm going to be in a zoo, I want the keys to the cage - I saturate the market with images of myself, so their images won't have any value.

I'm always looking for ways to make other people successful.

Everybody's got an idea for a TV show, and I wait for ideas. I like staying online, because I think you can start surfing the zeitgeist and feel what people are interested in; you can find micro trends that are turning into macro trends.


I'd sworn o ff relationships before I met my wife.

We met in New York, where I was hosting Saturday Night Live, and at the time I was saying to myself, 'I'm going to party, I'm going to sleep with this girl and that girl and just have a good time.' And then I met Demi and it was like, 'I can't not be with this person.' I think it's fate in a way. Anyone who's looking for a relationship can't find one, but as soon as you let go of the need or desire, it'll show up, just like that.

Bruce (Willis) is one of my favourite people to hang out with.

At first it was di fficult. You think, 'He's the guy who used to sleep with my wife', but once you overcome the jealousy, which is just your own personal insecurity, it gets easier. People ask us, 'How do you guys get on so well?' Well, I don't like everything Bruce does, and I'm sure he doesn't think everything I do is great. But being with Bruce is normal to me now. We go scuba-diving, skiing, we hang out with the girls together, we watch movies, we talk about sport.

It's really easy to fly on a private plane and have no idea how much that costs.

I make sure all three of our girls know the value of money and have the experience of doing some physical, blue-collar labour like I did. They really know what it's like to graft. They've worked in a store. I had Rumer work on a construction site with my dad for a while, and Scout went to Guatemala working for Habitat for Humanity and helped to build a house. I think it's so important.


My wife liked my body in Killers, but it doesn't look like that any more.

I don't think anybody can really sustain that shape, unless it's your job. I achieved it by doing lots of fight training. I learned three diff erent disciplines of martial arts: Krav Maga, Muay Thai and a Filipino knife-fighting discipline. Then I saw a workout programme on TV; I bought its DVD, used it and it actually worked. It sounds crazy, but that's all I did.

I once spent a night in jail for burglary.

I just wanted to get some money fast, so I broke into my high school. For a minute I thought the easy way out was the best way out; it was a simple oversight. I was a relatively good kid 90 per cent of the time, and then occasionally I'd get into trouble. I did stupid stuff . I stopped doing the stupid stu ff probably because I realised the attention I was getting wasn't the attention I wanted.

There's no such thing as a bad kid; there are just good kids who make bad decisions.

One of the things I do now is go and talk to kids in juvenile detention. I tell them, 'I'm the guy who sat in jail, I'm the guy who walked around town with my baseball cap down, I'm the guy who tried drugs, I'm the guy who got a girl pregnant.' When I was a kid, I did all that. Now the world has accepted me. Some people may not like my work, but in some ways I've become a role model. So remember, the next time you think of one of those people as bad, they're just like Ashton. Because the truth is, I was that guy, 100 per cent, but I turned my life around.

For Killers I worked on weapons-handling with a friend who used to be in the SAS.

I love action films, but I picked up some injuries along the way. I punctured my eardrum diving two storeys o ff a boat, and in another scene I landed on a shell case from the gun I was firing and ended up with a pretty good scar.


Cary Grant and Steve McQueen are my icons.

Cary Grant always had a really nice balance of comedy and thrillers, and Steve McQueen was just the coolest guy. I looked at a lot of Steve McQueen movies while planning my wardrobe for Killers.

When I look in the mirror I'm perfectly pleased with the way I look.

My parents gave me good genes. My dad is a handsome son of a gun, and my mum is beautiful. I've definitely been the lucky recipient.

There are 27 million slaves in the world today, and I think that's despicable.

My wife and I just started DNA (the Demi & Ashton Foundation) to stop human tra cking, which is modern-day slavery. There are children who are five and six years old working in brothels, and I just don't think I can live in a world where that exists and not do something about it.

I'm pretty geeky about technology.

The thing I enjoy most is trying all the di fferent phones that are coming out; at the moment I have an iPhone and a Nexus One. Nowadays you sit at a dinner and if somebody doesn't know the answer to something, you can access it right from the table; you don't have to go to the library any more. It's really changed things.

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